Sohn delivers lessons on tech disruption

From e-signatures to last-mile logistics and facials, the annual conference showed that waves of disruption continue to break in different ways across different sectors.

James Thomson

Sohn delivers lessons on tech disruption

December 3, 2021
From e-signatures to last-mile logistics and facials, the annual conference showed that waves of disruption continue to break in different ways across different sectors.
Read Transcript

At first glance, the links between a Japanese e-signature company, a US beauty group and a German delivery giant might not be obvious. But the annual Sohn Hearts & Minds Conference, held virtually on Friday, provided a reminder that while we all live in an online world, waves of tech disruption are still breaking across sectors everywhere – but in very different waves.

The last-mile logistics industry has become such a part of our lives during COVID-19 that you might think there’s limited room for more disruption. But Beeneet Kothari of New York’s Tekne Capital Management sees a new wave coming as consumer expectations move from getting their takeaway, groceries or small parcels in a week to a day, to an hour, to 15 minutes.

His top way to play this is German giant Delivery Hero, which he says has been marked down by investors because of the losses that have come from heavy investment in employing its own delivery drivers, rather than using third parties. But Kothari believes this group will soon be profitable and can ride the surging demand for convenience to triple gross sales to more than $105 billion in the next four or five years.

That alone could see the stock double, Kothari argues. But if the stock were re-rated to trade on multiples similar to that of rivals such as Chinese group Meituan and US group DoorDash, there could be gains of 400 per cent to 500 per cent for the patient investor.

‍While Delivery Hero is part of a third wave of disruption in the last-mile logistics space (disrupting the disruptors who disrupted the original players), Flight Deck Capital’s pick was about disrupting a practice unchanged for centuries.

Silicon Valley legend Jay Kahn, who founded Flight Deck Capital last year after a long stint at Light Street Capital, explained how Japan’s reliance on what are called hanko stamps to certify official documents has slowed the adoption of e-signature, as has occurred in the US and even in Australia.

But COVID-19 has changed the game, with the Japanese government saying this year it would allow e-signatures on government documents, and the financial services sector starting to follow.

Khan believes he has spotted the Japanese version of DocuSign, the $US56 billion ($79.5 billion) leader of the US e-signature market (well, it was worth $US56 billion until an untimely earnings downgrade on Thursday night saw its stock plunge almost 30 per cent in after-hours trade), in a company called Bengo4.com, which is worth $1.8 billion.‍

Flight Deck values the Japanese e-signature market at just $126 million currently, but believes it can climb towards $1 billion if the sort of penetration in the US is replicated in Japan.

If Bengo4 can lift market penetration to 5.5 per cent from 1.5 per cent, Khan believes the stock can double, and if penetration tops 6 per cent, it could possibly triple.

‍Joyce Meng’s stock pick wasn’t a tech company, but tech has become crucial to its growth. The US-based founder of FACT Capital tipped Beauty Health Co, a stock up 137 per cent in the past 12 months on the back of the growth of its flagship product, HydraFacial.

The monthly beauty treatment, which costs about $280 each time, has become famous on social media for customers posting shots of their skin afterwards (with the hashtag HydraGlow, of course) and pictures of the bags of grossness (dead skin, old blackheads and grime) that the treatment leaves behind. Ain’t technology grand.

Meng likes the razor/razor blade model that means the company makes money both from selling the machines essential for the treatment and from each treatment itself. A beauty therapist will generally be paid back for the cost of the $42,000 machine in 11 months at the most, and will also benefit from attracting younger customers.

‍Meng can see organic growth of 30 per cent in the coming years as Beauty Health sells more machines, which seems achievable given growth pre-COVID-19 was running at 52 per cent, and growth during COVID-19 was 39 per cent. The company also has $1.3 billion for M&A and a big range of new products coming out next year.

‍FACT has a price target of $US42 on the stock, or about 43 per cent higher than its current price.

This article was originally posted by The AFR here.

Licensed by Copyright Agency. You must not copy this work without permission.

At first glance, the links between a Japanese e-signature company, a US beauty group and a German delivery giant might not be obvious. But the annual Sohn Hearts & Minds Conference, held virtually on Friday, provided a reminder that while we all live in an online world, waves of tech disruption are still breaking across sectors everywhere – but in very different waves.

The last-mile logistics industry has become such a part of our lives during COVID-19 that you might think there’s limited room for more disruption. But Beeneet Kothari of New York’s Tekne Capital Management sees a new wave coming as consumer expectations move from getting their takeaway, groceries or small parcels in a week to a day, to an hour, to 15 minutes.

His top way to play this is German giant Delivery Hero, which he says has been marked down by investors because of the losses that have come from heavy investment in employing its own delivery drivers, rather than using third parties. But Kothari believes this group will soon be profitable and can ride the surging demand for convenience to triple gross sales to more than $105 billion in the next four or five years.

That alone could see the stock double, Kothari argues. But if the stock were re-rated to trade on multiples similar to that of rivals such as Chinese group Meituan and US group DoorDash, there could be gains of 400 per cent to 500 per cent for the patient investor.

‍While Delivery Hero is part of a third wave of disruption in the last-mile logistics space (disrupting the disruptors who disrupted the original players), Flight Deck Capital’s pick was about disrupting a practice unchanged for centuries.

Silicon Valley legend Jay Kahn, who founded Flight Deck Capital last year after a long stint at Light Street Capital, explained how Japan’s reliance on what are called hanko stamps to certify official documents has slowed the adoption of e-signature, as has occurred in the US and even in Australia.

But COVID-19 has changed the game, with the Japanese government saying this year it would allow e-signatures on government documents, and the financial services sector starting to follow.

Khan believes he has spotted the Japanese version of DocuSign, the $US56 billion ($79.5 billion) leader of the US e-signature market (well, it was worth $US56 billion until an untimely earnings downgrade on Thursday night saw its stock plunge almost 30 per cent in after-hours trade), in a company called Bengo4.com, which is worth $1.8 billion.‍

Flight Deck values the Japanese e-signature market at just $126 million currently, but believes it can climb towards $1 billion if the sort of penetration in the US is replicated in Japan.

If Bengo4 can lift market penetration to 5.5 per cent from 1.5 per cent, Khan believes the stock can double, and if penetration tops 6 per cent, it could possibly triple.

‍Joyce Meng’s stock pick wasn’t a tech company, but tech has become crucial to its growth. The US-based founder of FACT Capital tipped Beauty Health Co, a stock up 137 per cent in the past 12 months on the back of the growth of its flagship product, HydraFacial.

The monthly beauty treatment, which costs about $280 each time, has become famous on social media for customers posting shots of their skin afterwards (with the hashtag HydraGlow, of course) and pictures of the bags of grossness (dead skin, old blackheads and grime) that the treatment leaves behind. Ain’t technology grand.

Meng likes the razor/razor blade model that means the company makes money both from selling the machines essential for the treatment and from each treatment itself. A beauty therapist will generally be paid back for the cost of the $42,000 machine in 11 months at the most, and will also benefit from attracting younger customers.

‍Meng can see organic growth of 30 per cent in the coming years as Beauty Health sells more machines, which seems achievable given growth pre-COVID-19 was running at 52 per cent, and growth during COVID-19 was 39 per cent. The company also has $1.3 billion for M&A and a big range of new products coming out next year.

‍FACT has a price target of $US42 on the stock, or about 43 per cent higher than its current price.

This article was originally posted by The AFR here.

Licensed by Copyright Agency. You must not copy this work without permission.

Disclaimer: This material has been prepared by Australian Financial Review, published on Dec 03, 2021. HM1 is not responsible for the content of linked websites or content prepared by third party. The inclusion of these links and third-party content does not in any way imply any form of endorsement by HM1 of the products or services provided by persons or organisations who are responsible for the linked websites and third-party content. This information is for general information only and does not consider the objectives, financial situation or needs of any person. Before making an investment decision, you should read the relevant disclosure document (if appropriate) and seek professional advice to determine whether the investment and information is suitable for you.

facebook
linkedin
All
Thank you! Your submission has been received!
Oops! Something went wrong while submitting the form.
Munro Partners partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney. Picture: Renee NowytargerMunro Partners partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney. Picture: Renee NowytargerMunro Partners partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney. Picture: Renee NowytargerMunro Partners partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney. Picture: Renee Nowytarger
November 17, 2023

Wise Share Price Could Rise 50pc By 2025, Says Munro Partners

Global growth fund manager Munro has about $4.3bn in funds under management across four global funds, and usually invests in companies that are poised to win from massive structural change.

Read More
Martin Hughes founder of UK-based Toscafund. Picture: Elke MeitzelMartin Hughes founder of UK-based Toscafund. Picture: Elke MeitzelMartin Hughes founder of UK-based Toscafund. Picture: Elke MeitzelMartin Hughes founder of UK-based Toscafund. Picture: Elke Meitzel
November 16, 2023

Hedge Fund Veteran Talks Lowest Moment In Toscafund’s 23-Year Run

Most hedge fund managers brag about their wins and shy away from their losses – Martin Hughes is not most hedge fund managers.

Read More
November 16, 2023

The ‘Armageddon Scenario’ Worrying The Future Fund CIO

Mr Samild shared his thoughts on the bond market – which underpins the returns of other assets – ahead of his appearance at Friday’s Sohn Hearts & Minds charity conference at the Sydney Opera House.

Read More
Daniel MacArthur with Melbourne scientist and assistant professor Misty Jenkins. Both will be speaking at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.Daniel MacArthur with Melbourne scientist and assistant professor Misty Jenkins. Both will be speaking at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.Daniel MacArthur with Melbourne scientist and assistant professor Misty Jenkins. Both will be speaking at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.Daniel MacArthur with Melbourne scientist and assistant professor Misty Jenkins. Both will be speaking at the Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.
November 15, 2023

Advancing Medicine Is In Daniel MacArthur’s DNA

When genomic scientist Daniel MacArthur had the opportunity to set up a new Centre for Population Genomics in Australia in 2019, he jumped at the chance to return home after 12 years living overseas.

Read More
November 15, 2023

Ashish Swarup - Invest In Snacks, Let's Get That Bread | Aikya Investment Management

Ashish Swarup, Portfolio Manager and Investment Analyst of Aikya Investment Management joins Bryce and Ren to discuss emerging markets, and two stock deep dives.

Read More
Surging interest rates have delivered new investment opportunities for Wall Street hedge fund Third Point. Picture: Getty Images/AFPSurging interest rates have delivered new investment opportunities for Wall Street hedge fund Third Point. Picture: Getty Images/AFPSurging interest rates have delivered new investment opportunities for Wall Street hedge fund Third Point. Picture: Getty Images/AFPSurging interest rates have delivered new investment opportunities for Wall Street hedge fund Third Point. Picture: Getty Images/AFP
November 15, 2023

Daniel Loeb’s Wall St Hedge Fund Third Point Raises Bets On Corporate Credit Crunch

An “obsession” around balance sheet strength and debt is creating a new wave of investment bets for the influential Wall Street hedge fund run by Daniel Loeb.

Read More
November 13, 2023

Bond Bullish On Commodity Stocks, Uranium

Mining stocks are poised to rise amid tight supply for key commodities such as copper, nickel and uranium, says Terra Capital founder Jeremy Bond.

Read More
November 13, 2023

This Hedge Fund Manager Is Making A 100-Year Bet On Luxury

European leisure and luxury – a designer handbag, a last-minute flight to Monte Carlo, a stay in a five-star hotel – is where many choose to spend their hard-earned cash. For Sharif el Khazen, it’s where he makes it.

Read More
Munro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore says Nvidia will be critical in the expansion of accelerated computing. Picture: NCANewswire / Nicki ConnollyMunro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore says Nvidia will be critical in the expansion of accelerated computing. Picture: NCANewswire / Nicki ConnollyMunro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore says Nvidia will be critical in the expansion of accelerated computing. Picture: NCANewswire / Nicki ConnollyMunro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore says Nvidia will be critical in the expansion of accelerated computing. Picture: NCANewswire / Nicki Connolly
November 12, 2023

How Munro Will Pick Its Next Stock Winner

Munro partner and portfolio manager Kieran Moore must select a single company to pitch to an audience of industry heavyweights at the prestigious Sohn Hearts & Minds conference in Sydney.

Read More
Ray Dalio last month. His hedge fund has been under heightened scrutiny with the release of a tell-all book. Picture: BloombergRay Dalio last month. His hedge fund has been under heightened scrutiny with the release of a tell-all book. Picture: BloombergRay Dalio last month. His hedge fund has been under heightened scrutiny with the release of a tell-all book. Picture: BloombergRay Dalio last month. His hedge fund has been under heightened scrutiny with the release of a tell-all book. Picture: Bloomberg
November 12, 2023

The Australian At The Centre Of Dalio’s Bridgewater – Who Loves It

The culture at Ray Dalio’s massive hedge fund has been a source of intrigue, and with a new book, controversy. Atul Lele says it’s made him a better investor.

Read More
Sheila Patel has had an extraordinary career across Goldman Sachs and now the VC sector. Picture: Dominic LorrimerSheila Patel has had an extraordinary career across Goldman Sachs and now the VC sector. Picture: Dominic LorrimerSheila Patel has had an extraordinary career across Goldman Sachs and now the VC sector. Picture: Dominic LorrimerSheila Patel has had an extraordinary career across Goldman Sachs and now the VC sector. Picture: Dominic Lorrimer
November 10, 2023

Meet The Goldman Sachs Legend Shaking Up Venture Capital

Sheila Patel says it was time for the venture capital sector to “grow up” and higher rates will help do that job. VC firms need to think differently about how they invest.

Read More
November 8, 2023

Tom Naughton - There's Money In Mi Goreng | Prusik Investment

Tom Naughton is Managing Partner and CIO at Prusik Investment. In this episode, he chats to Equity Mates ahead of his appearance at the 2023 Sohn Hearts and Minds Conference.

Read More
November 6, 2023

Why Chris Kourtis just bought CSL and ResMed

A true contrarian investor, Chris Kourtis can find himself sounding a lot like a bull when in the company of bears, and there’s a lot to be bearish about at the moment.

Read More
Jun Bei Liu being coached by Jonathan Pease. Picture: Renee Nowytarger.Jun Bei Liu being coached by Jonathan Pease. Picture: Renee Nowytarger.Jun Bei Liu being coached by Jonathan Pease. Picture: Renee Nowytarger.Jun Bei Liu being coached by Jonathan Pease. Picture: Renee Nowytarger.
November 5, 2023

Five Secrets To Delivering The Perfect Pitch

Australia’s best stock pickers have just eight minutes to convince the country’s top money managers they have found an investment gem that the market has overlooked.

Read More
Picture: Solomon Lew & David ParadicePicture: Solomon Lew & David ParadicePicture: Solomon Lew & David ParadicePicture: Solomon Lew & David Paradice
November 3, 2023

Paradice and Lew on their love of medical research – and Greece

Solomon Lew, the billionaire retailer, has known David Paradice, the high-profile fund managers, for years. Beyond investing, they share a common interest in medical research – and holidaying in Greece.

Read More